Of course, I’m talking about the Wilson’s. I wrote a lot about this subject earlier in the season – here, and here, but I feel like it still needs more talking about. Jack Wilson is hurt again, and Josh Wilson is doing a decent job of filling in for him, so inevitably, people are back to talking about keeping Josh around next year as the starting shortstop, instead of Jack. That was a stupid idea then, and it’s a stupid idea now.
I took part in a little discussion about this last night over at Lookout Landing, and this is pretty much what it came down to – the salary for major league baseball players should roughly be $4 million per win, and replacement level players are worth 0 wins. Josh Wilson is a replacement level player, and Jack Wilson, if he stays healthy, should be anywhere from a 2 to 4 win player. So, Jack is not only going to be worth anywhere from 8 to 16 million dollars next season, but he’s going to be worth anywhere from 8 to 16 million dollars MORE than Josh.
Jack’s option for 2010 is $8.4 million, so he would only need to be worth about 2.1 wins to earn his money. I’m not saying that there aren’t going to be better routes to take than picking up his option, but at the very least, if we do, we’re not only getting our money’s worth, but we’re getting 2-4 wins out of the shortstop position, which is something that’s not easy to come by. It’s much easier to get value out of almost any other position.
Now if we were to go with Josh, sure we’d save $8 million, but we’d also lose 2-4 wins. Sacrificing wins for money isn’t something you generally want to do when you’re talking about a team that has a chance to contend. Now Jack Zduriencik has already shown his talent for finding cheap value, but that’s something that’s not easy to do when it comes to shortstop. And if he’s able to do it again this off season at other positions, spending the money on Jack Wilson – the money he’s probably going to earn, and then some – shouldn’t be much of a problem.
When it comes down to it, the most important thing is wins (unless you’re flat broke like the Rangers), and if the team wants to avoid overpaying but still get the wins, you go with Jack over Josh.
The other possibility that I haven’t mentioned in this post, is the possibility of the Mariners extending Jack Wilson for a year or two, rather than picking up his option. Generally, if we were able to agree on something like a 2 year/$10 million deal, that would be great.
But, I digress. My point is, if it comes down to it, picking up Jack Wilson’s option is a better route than letting him go and keeping Josh Wilson.
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You know what I just realized? I can’t remember where the hell Josh Wilson came from, or how he got to be a Mariner. I’m sure I could do the research easily, but that just occurred to me; I just can’t remember.
I’m pretty sure the Padres released him and we grabbed him
A quick check on FanGraphs shows that indeed, he came to us via the Pads, to the Pads via AZ Triple A. For some reason, I just couldn’t remember that. Also, I’m not sure I could identify him in a lineup – it’s not that he’s not making much of an impression, he’s certainly done some good things this year – I think I just got over-rostered all of a sudden, and all that mattered was THAT he was here, not what his past accomplishments might have been.
I’m just surprised they’re letting a 15-year-old play professional baseball.
That’s what I think every time Saunders gets up to the plate!
Saunders is like no 15 year old I’ve ever seen. I was on the field in Tacoma earlier this season and he walked past and caused a complete solar eclipse. He was the most physically imposing player on that club.
As far as Josh Wilson, 1.) Exactly who thinks he’s a big league starter? he’s not even a big league bench player. and 2.) he’s not exactly hot anymore. .868 OPS between August 13 and Sept. 5, .286 OPS since.
Well, the FO must think he’s a big league starter, since he’s been out there so frequently, even when other Wilson was available. Not that it’s right, just that it’s happening.
Jon, someone at LL was advocating him for starting shortstop over Jack next year. An argument ensued. I had nothing else to write about today, so I took it and used it as inspiration.
I’ve seen similar comments on the Seattle Times boards. Really good post Griffin solid theory, I love it. Keep it up bro!
A. Jack Wilson
B. Josh Wilson
C. JJ Hardy
Correct answer is: C. (I hope).
I hope so too.