Mid-Season 2011 Top-10 Prospects


Well here we go. It’s been 2 months of hard work and there is still work to be done on the back half of the 50 but everyone here at this site has spent a lot of time watching video, writing up reports, giving opinions, arguing doing graphics and it’s finally here.

Our Mid-Season 2011 Top 100 Prospect Watch list.

I can’t say enough about the work that Keith, Alex and Adam have done to help me put this together. It’s been so very helpful and over the top. I couldn’t have put this together without them.

Disclaimer: I said it previously with the initial list and I’ll repeat it now. This is an arbitrary list and there is room for argument just about everywhere. But, we’ve done it enough internally and this is what we came up with.

This list is not done professionally. We all freely admit that we are amateurs and that this has been done entirely in recreation and the majority of it was compiled by using information that has been posted elsewhere and is freely available for others to find themselves. I nor anyone else is claiming this is a better product than what anyone else has done and it’s most importantly in an effort to give some of these players the credit and due that the players in this organization deserve.

Okay with that all said and out of the way here is the Top-10 prospects of our Top-100 watch list. Every Tuesday and Friday we’ll be releasing the next 10 in an effort to drag this out as long as  long as possible while you continue to care less.

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1- Taijuan Walker, Starting Pitcher

Scouting Report:  Off-the charts stuff. +Velocity, +FB/CB, developing CH, has good command, #2 stuff right now but potential to be a #1. We’ll see what next year brings.


 

2- Danny Hultzen, Starting Pitcher

Scouting Report: Throws 3 +pitches (FB,SL,CH) and a decent CB, maintains + command. Has minimum #3 stuff and most people think a very good #2.

*college numbers

 

3- James Paxton, Starting Pitcher

Scouting Report: +FB/CB combo, more consistenacy needed. He has really started to come on quick of late. Could be a #2 more likely a good #3.

 

4- Jose Campos, Starting Pitcher

Scouting Report: ++Velocity, +fastball with movement but CB/CH still very much in developmental stages. Reports on command/control say avg but stats indicate otherwise.

 

5- Nick Franklin, Shortstop

Scouting Report: Athletic and gritty. +work ethic/determination/make-up.Good hit tool but switch hitting in question as is health.

 

6- Trayvon Robinson, Outfielder

Scouting Report: +Athleticism, good hit tool but contact is an issue. Power is over stated but it’s still there. Could be a good defender in center, but lack of arm may force a move to left.

 

 

7- Kyle Seager, 2B/3B

Scouting Report: Great line drive hitter but with limited power, Solid +approach/eye/contact skills. Position is a bit of question but he should be average in the field.

 

8- Guillermo Pimentel, Outfielder

Scouting Report: ++Raw power and he’s shown it in games. Needs to continue developing approach doesn’t work counts very well. Also, underwhelming defensive tools (arm/range/routes).

 

9- Vincent Catricala, 1B/DH

Scouting Report: Great hitter, good raw power, above average hit tool, good approach. Lack of position, could end up in the OF or 1B. A lot riding on the bat.

10- Alex Liddi, 3B

Scouting Report: Enough raw power that it will play at Safeco. Even with holes in approach, he still is maturing and there is time for him to improve further. I think his defense is potentially enough to be ML-avg (may already be there) but, probably never better than that.

 

 

 

 

 

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Tags: Alex Liddi Danny Hultzen Guillermo Pimentel James Paxton Jose Campos Kyle Seager Nick Franklin Taijuan Walker Trayvon Robinson Vinny Catricala

  • troysowden

    I have a big mancrush on Campos, but I’m not sure I can rank him above Franklin yet. Are you including Robinson and Seager until their big league eligibility expires?

  • troysowden

    I have a big mancrush on Campos, but I’m not sure I can rank him above Franklin yet. Are you including Robinson and Seager until their big league eligibility expires?

  • troysowden

    yikes, that should say “rookie eligibility”

  • troysowden

    yikes, that should say “rookie eligibility”

  • Harrison_Crow

    @troysowden Haha… I knew what you meant. Yes, they will lose their eligibility this year and it will reflect in the 2012 rankings.

    I really, really hard core love Campos. I get he doesn’t have the elite control but it’s still really good. He doesn’t have a polished out pitch and yet he’s striking out a ton of hitters. I can’t wait to see what he’s capable of as he polishes things off. I think that he’s in the top 5 for the next couple of years. Outside of Walker I think he has the highest ceiling – for a pitcher – in the organization.

    On the other end of things I’m not crazy about Franklin’s random health issues the last couple of years. After talking to a few people there is a growing belief that he might not be back this season. That was taken into account as we went complied everything. I believe in the talent and I like him a lot, but I’d like to see him put together a full season without issues..

    There is also the worries about his switch hitting ability that people continually will bring up. If it’s truely just about him getting more at bats from the right side than the injury concerns become even more legitimate to stunting his growth.

    Just some of my thoughts.

  • Harrison_Crow

    @troysowden Haha… I knew what you meant. Yes, they will lose their eligibility this year and it will reflect in the 2012 rankings.

    I really, really hard core love Campos. I get he doesn’t have the elite control but it’s still really good. He doesn’t have a polished out pitch and yet he’s striking out a ton of hitters. I can’t wait to see what he’s capable of as he polishes things off. I think that he’s in the top 5 for the next couple of years. Outside of Walker I think he has the highest ceiling – for a pitcher – in the organization.

    On the other end of things I’m not crazy about Franklin’s random health issues the last couple of years. After talking to a few people there is a growing belief that he might not be back this season. That was taken into account as we went complied everything. I believe in the talent and I like him a lot, but I’d like to see him put together a full season without issues..

    There is also the worries about his switch hitting ability that people continually will bring up. If it’s truely just about him getting more at bats from the right side than the injury concerns become even more legitimate to stunting his growth.

    Just some of my thoughts.

  • troysowden

    @Harrison_Crow Franklin is rehabbing (poorly) in rookie ball right now. Do you mean people believe he might not be back to Jackson this season?

    I agree the health stuff is disconcerting, but getting Poythressed in the face was a freak accident. I hate seeing him lose to much development time, but he’s still a very talented kid.

    Regardless, we’re not far apart. It’s interesting how just like heading into 2011 there seem to be a consensus top 2 that could be ranked in either order (Ackley/Pineda now Hultzen/Walker) and a clearcut # 3 (Franklin now Paxton). But coming into 2011 trying to select a #4 was basically a crapshoot between the ranker’s high risk high reward prospect of choice (Pimentel/Walker) or ranker’s mid level prospect of choice (Liddi, Chavez, Robles). Going into 2012 there are two legitimate candidates in Campos and Franklin who are both significantly better prospects than anyone in the system was behind the big three.That’s a really long-winded way of saying there’s a lot more depth this year.I like it.

  • troysowden

    @Harrison_Crow Franklin is rehabbing (poorly) in rookie ball right now. Do you mean people believe he might not be back to Jackson this season?

    I agree the health stuff is disconcerting, but getting Poythressed in the face was a freak accident. I hate seeing him lose to much development time, but he’s still a very talented kid.

    Regardless, we’re not far apart. It’s interesting how just like heading into 2011 there seem to be a consensus top 2 that could be ranked in either order (Ackley/Pineda now Hultzen/Walker) and a clearcut # 3 (Franklin now Paxton). But coming into 2011 trying to select a #4 was basically a crapshoot between the ranker’s high risk high reward prospect of choice (Pimentel/Walker) or ranker’s mid level prospect of choice (Liddi, Chavez, Robles). Going into 2012 there are two legitimate candidates in Campos and Franklin who are both significantly better prospects than anyone in the system was behind the big three.That’s a really long-winded way of saying there’s a lot more depth this year.I like it.

  • lonnie.mathis

    My first reaction to any rack and stack listing of talent is to go: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

    Or, something like that :)

  • lonnie.mathis

    My first reaction to any rack and stack listing of talent is to go: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

    Or, something like that :)

  • lonnie.mathis

    @troysowden With Franklin it isn’t because of the head meets bat incident. What it is is that last year he caught the flu and lost 15 lbs. This year, right after getting hit he caught mono and lost 20 lbs. Franklin doesn’t carry enough body fat to absorb those kind of issues.

    Lonnie

  • lonnie.mathis

    @troysowden With Franklin it isn’t because of the head meets bat incident. What it is is that last year he caught the flu and lost 15 lbs. This year, right after getting hit he caught mono and lost 20 lbs. Franklin doesn’t carry enough body fat to absorb those kind of issues.

    Lonnie

  • Harrison_Crow

    @lonnie.mathis@troysowden That’s exactly it Lonnie. The flu and mono have both really killed him physically in two separate years and it’s certainly a bit disconcerting.

    And by not return for the rest of the season, I mean at the time of putting this together I was told that he might not make it back to Jackson this year. He might rehab and he may even play in the Arizona Fall League but he may not make it back to AA by years end.

  • Harrison_Crow

    @lonnie.mathis@troysowden That’s exactly it Lonnie. The flu and mono have both really killed him physically in two separate years and it’s certainly a bit disconcerting.

    And by not return for the rest of the season, I mean at the time of putting this together I was told that he might not make it back to Jackson this year. He might rehab and he may even play in the Arizona Fall League but he may not make it back to AA by years end.

  • maqman

    Not much there to argue with. I find it interesting that #1 cost us $.8MM and #2 can cost us over $10MM. That college education really helps I guess. Are Carp and Wells no longer considered prospects? Will you factor in the PTBN from Detroit when all is revealed?

  • maqman

    Not much there to argue with. I find it interesting that #1 cost us $.8MM and #2 can cost us over $10MM. That college education really helps I guess. Are Carp and Wells no longer considered prospects? Will you factor in the PTBN from Detroit when all is revealed?

  • Harrison_Crow

    @maqman Carp and Wells both expired their prospect status last year as far as I could tell which is why neither of them were on this list. Wells would have come in somewhere early in the teens had I ranked him.

    It all depends on who the PTBNL is… we haven’t actually talked about that and it’s something I only started thinking about last night.

    As for the cost of acquiring the prospects remember that it’s all relative to the situation. Walker would have cost substantially more (most likely twice as much) had he been drafted just 15 picks previously. All because of “suggested slotting.”

    Then you have to consider the International Free-Agency and the fact that anyone can negotiate with anyone. It drives up the price.

    Though I always find it interesting (and oddly enjoyable) talking about cost effectiveness of acquiring specific talent..

  • Harrison_Crow

    @maqman Carp and Wells both expired their prospect status last year as far as I could tell which is why neither of them were on this list. Wells would have come in somewhere early in the teens had I ranked him.

    It all depends on who the PTBNL is… we haven’t actually talked about that and it’s something I only started thinking about last night.

    As for the cost of acquiring the prospects remember that it’s all relative to the situation. Walker would have cost substantially more (most likely twice as much) had he been drafted just 15 picks previously. All because of “suggested slotting.”

    Then you have to consider the International Free-Agency and the fact that anyone can negotiate with anyone. It drives up the price.

    Though I always find it interesting (and oddly enjoyable) talking about cost effectiveness of acquiring specific talent..