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		<title>Two Moves to finish up the Ms Offseason</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In light of the recent Morales for Vargas trade, I thought I would talk about the last move or two that I think the Mariners should, and possibly will make to make for a successful offseason. First of all, I love the Kendrys Morales/Jason Vargas trade that went down a couple days ago. We traded [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In light of the recent <a href="http://sodomojo.com/2012/12/20/the-mariners-add-power-hitting-kendrys-morales/">Morales for Vargas trade</a>, I thought I would talk about the last move or two that I think the Mariners should, and possibly will make to make for a successful offseason.</p>
<p>First of all, I love the <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/moralke01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-sodomojo.com" target="_blank">Kendrys Morales</a></strong>/<strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/vargaja01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-sodomojo.com" target="_blank">Jason Vargas</a></strong> trade that went down a couple days ago. We traded from a position of depth in order to acquire a much needed middle-of-the-order bat that the team has lacked for years. Morales hit 34 homers just a few years ago, and had a very solid year last year coming back from what could have been a very serious injury.</p>
<p>The only &#8220;problem&#8221; that could come of this is playing time at the first base and DH positions. However, I think that can be very easily solved. Against LHP, <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/player_search.cgi?results=monter002jes,monteje01&amp;utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-sodomojo.com" target="_blank">Jesus Montero</a></strong> would catch, Morales would DH, and <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/smoakju01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-sodomojo.com" target="_blank">Justin Smoak</a></strong> would man first. Against righties, <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/j/jasojo01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-sodomojo.com" target="_blank">John Jaso</a></strong> would do the catching, with Montero as the DH, and Morales at first. Then once <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=zunino001mic&amp;utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-sodomojo.com" target="_blank">Mike Zunino</a></strong> is ready, whoever is hitting stays around. If Smoak bombs again, then he is gone and the Ms try to re-up Morales. If Smoak plays well, then Morales can be let go, and net us a pick in the process.</p>
<p>In my opinion, Seattle can&#8217;t stop here. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, Morales is a very good hitter and is a very big upgrade. But he cannot turn the team around on his own. The Ms need to continue to add on, and improve even further.</p>
<p>Two moves I think the Ms should make in order to have a successful offseason are as follows:</p>
<ul>
<li> Acquire an outfield bat</li>
<li>A veteran starter or two to shore up the rotation</li>
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<p>Those two moves would definitely make for a solid offseason, and if executed correctly, could get the Mariners to 85 wins. The lineup still lacks a bat in my opinion, and there&#8217;s no guarantee that Morales will return next year. Another bat that can be slotted in the middle with Morales and Montero makes a ton of sense.</p>
<p>As for the pitcher, I am not comfortable having both <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/beavabl01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-sodomojo.com" target="_blank">Blake Beavan</a></strong> and <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/n/noesihe01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-sodomojo.com" target="_blank">Hector Noesi</a></strong> in the rotation next year, which is how it looks right now. The team needs a guy that can be counted on to eat some innings and be at least a solid #3 or 4 guy, at least until the young guys are ready.</p>
<p>Some of the candidates for an outfield bat are Michael Morse, <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/k/kubelja01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-sodomojo.com" target="_blank">Jason Kubel</a></strong>, <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/e/ethiean01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-sodomojo.com" target="_blank">Andre Ethier</a></strong> and <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/swishni01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-sodomojo.com" target="_blank">Nick Swisher</a></strong>. As far as pitchers, some names I like are <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/marcush01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-sodomojo.com" target="_blank">Shaun Marcum</a></strong>, <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/saundjo01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-sodomojo.com" target="_blank">Joe Saunders</a></strong>, <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/bedarer01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-sodomojo.com" target="_blank">Erik Bedard</a></strong> and <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/capuach01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-sodomojo.com" target="_blank">Chris Capuano</a></strong>.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, all of the bats have a fairly large down side, and none seem to be a great fit.</p>
<p>Morse is a solid right handed bat and is probably the most likely due to the possibility of him not having a spot if Washington signs <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/l/larocad01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-sodomojo.com" target="_blank">Adam LaRoche</a></strong> as expected. However, he probably belongs at 1st base as he is a butcher in the outfield. Plus, he is also only on a one year deal, and there would be a chance that both he and Morales would be one year rentals.</p>
<p>I would probably be willing to overlook the defense though. With <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/saundmi01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-sodomojo.com" target="_blank">Michael Saunders</a></strong> and <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/gutiefr01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-sodomojo.com" target="_blank">Franklin Gutierrez</a></strong> next to him, his defense may not hurt too much, especially if he keeps hitting.</p>
<p>If he were to be acquired, I would want to be 100% sure that at least one of he and Morales would agree to a 3 year deal, so we are not in the same situation again. I would hate to give up Vargas and whatever it would take for Morse (looks like a reliever such as <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/f/furbuch01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-sodomojo.com" target="_blank">Charlie Furbush</a></strong> or <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/p/pryorst01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-sodomojo.com" target="_blank">Stephen Pryor</a></strong> headlining) for only one year of each player.</p>
<p>That being said, if the team thinks he can be passable in the outfield, and can be sure to retain him or Morales, then I would be willing to give up a reliever for him every day of the week.</p>
<p>Kubel is in a similar, yet different situation. He too struggles defensively, but not quite to the extent of Morse. He is also signed for two years at $6 million a year, so there is a little more guarantee in that department. However, he is no where near the hitter than Morse is. He is above average, but not by a huge amount. He was aided by Chase Field, and struggles against lefties as well.</p>
<p>He is probably my least favorite option, but he may still cost more than the others. I am not really sure what the Diamondbacks are looking for at this point other than infield help, something the Ms do not possess, at least not when Kubel is the return.</p>
<div id="attachment_10034" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 220px"><a href="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/65/files/2012/12/6587560.jpg"><img class=" wp-image-10034 " title="MLB: St. Louis Cardinals at Los Angeles Dodgers" src="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/65/files/2012/12/6587560-300x408.jpg" alt="" width="210" height="286" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">September 16, 2012; Los Angeles, CA, USA; Los Angeles Dodgers right fielder Andre Ethier (16) rounds the bases after he hits a two run home run in the third inning against the St. Louis Cardinals at Dodger Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Gary A. Vasquez-USA TODAY Sports</p></div>
<p>Ethier is a very interesting guy, and is my favorite option, and simultaneously my least favorite option. He is my favorite because he is probably the best hitter of the guys I named, and is signed long term. But at the same time, he is lost against left handed pitching, below average defensively, and is owed $85 million over 5 years. He is essentially a massively overpayed platoon player.</p>
<p>The only way I would want him is of the Dodgers would eat $20-25 million of his contract. He is not worth $17 million a year, but he may be worth $12-13 million a year. I am not sure what the Dodgers would want, but it would probably be too much.</p>
<p>I may be alone in this, in fact I am not even sure I really believe it, but I think I would trade <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=frankl001nic&amp;utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-sodomojo.com" target="_blank">Nick Franklin</a></strong> for Ethier, Capuano and $20 million, as that would fill both of the team&#8217;s needs. I am bigger on <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=miller005bra&amp;utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-sodomojo.com" target="_blank">Brad Miller</a></strong> than I am Franklin, and I think Franklin may have to move off of short anyway, thus taking away a spot for him.</p>
<p>It would also allow us to keep all of our young pitching to build a very strong rotation, possibly with some left over to acquire future needs. But as you can tell, I am very conflicted on Ethier, and am not sure what to think of him right now.</p>
<p>Lastly, there is free agent Nick Swisher. Some people have given up on Swisher as he did not meet with the Mariners, causing people to jump to the conclusion that he won&#8217;t play here. But Jack Z said in an interview that he has an offer on the table, which I believe is to Swisher. It would also fit with the report that two teams have offered Swisher a contract.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, Swisher isn&#8217;t perfect either. He is the oldest of the targets I named, and as <a href="http://sodomojo.com/2012/12/12/nick-swisher-more-like-bread-less-like-wine/">Matty pointed out</a>, he may not be as breakdown-proof as many of us want to believe. Guys tend to struggle when they reach their mid 30s, which is where Swisher will be in just a couple years.</p>
<p>He would also cause us to lose the 12th pick in next years draft, which is a scary thought in what looks to be a very good draft. I am not sure  anymore than Swisher is worth $13-14 million a year and a top draft pick. He would fit nicely in the middle with Montero and Morales, and would fill the whole in right field with another switch hitter.</p>
<p>As you can see, all of these guys have their downsides, and there really isn&#8217;t a perfect fit like Morales was. Jack may have to get creative and take a chance here, but I think it has to be done.</p>
<p>I will try to be a little more brief with the pitchers, as I am already well over 1000 words, as I seem to be too often.</p>
<p>Shaun Marcum is the best pitcher out of the bunch, but he may also be the most expensive, and could very well command the most money, possibly for multiple years. I think a one year deal is ideal here, but Marcum may get 2-3 years. If he would come here for 1 year and $8 million or so (which he could do to regain some value and try again next year) then I think the Ms should jump all over it. He is basically a right handed, better version of Vargas, and would fit in nicely to the spot that Jason left.</p>
<p>Joe Saunders is in a similar situation to Marcum. He had a solid year last year, and while he hasn&#8217;t been talked about a lot, could end up getting 2 or 3 years, which doesn&#8217;t make a ton of sense for the Ms. Like Marcum though, if he could come in for one or two years at $5 million or so, then he could be a solid signing to try to improve the rotation until the kids are ready.</p>
<p>Erik Bedard back for another go around? It makes some sense if the team prefers the cheap route, and want a guy to battle with Beavan and Noesi for the back end rather than fit in behind Felix. He struggled last year, but when he was healthy as a Mariner, he was very effective, and could bounce back enough to hold down the fort until <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=hultze001dan&amp;utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-sodomojo.com" target="_blank">Danny Hultzen</a></strong> can join the rotation, hopefully during the coming year.</p>
<div id="attachment_10035" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/65/files/2012/12/6613132.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-10035" title="MLB: Los Angeles Dodgers at San Diego Padres" src="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/65/files/2012/12/6613132-300x443.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="443" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">September 27, 2012; San Diego, CA, USA; Los Angeles Dodgers pitcher Chris Capuano (35) throws during the first inning against the San Diego Padres at Petco Park. Mandatory Credit: Christopher Hanewinckel-USA TODAY Sports</p></div>
<p>Last there is Chris Capuano, who I mentioned before. He would have to come through a trade, but the Ms were already linked to him yesterday, as the Dodgers have an excess of starting pitching now. He is under contract for 2 years at $4.8 million a year, which is very reasonable for someone who can do what he can. He would fit in very well between Felix and Iwakuma as an inning eating vet lefty. Very similar to Vargas, but better and cheaper.</p>
<p>Once again I am not sure what the Dodgers want, but if he can be had for a mid level prospect or reliever or something along those lines, I think he makes a ton of sense.</p>
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<p>In conclusion, the Mariners can&#8217;t end here. Jack needs to go out and make a couple more moves to solidify this team. As you can see, there are no perfect solutions, so its up to Jack to assess all of his options, and see what makes the most sense for this team. I think its very realistic that both of these things can be done, and the Mariners have the money to do it. There is no reason to stop here. The Morales move is the kind that you build on.</p>
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<p>If both of these things happen, I would give Jack an A for the offseason as the Mariners head into a very important and telling year. I know it is hard to wait, but we need to be patient and hope for the best. That is coming from the guy who is constantly searching for more news and rumors, and has a few different MLB video game franchises going, each with different options that the Ms have.</p>
<p>Hey GMZ, hurry up. I am going nuts. The Morales trade held me over for a while, but I am losing control.</p>
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		<title>What Hamilton to the Angels means for the Ms</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 00:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>JJ Keller</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am sure all of you heard the news about Josh Hamilton agreeing to a 5 year, $125 million contract with the AL West rival Angels. This is bad news for not only the Hamilton-or-busters, but really for every Mariner fan. Even if you did not find Hamilton enticing, you cannot like seeing him sign [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sure all of you heard the news about <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hamiljo03.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-sodomojo.com" target="_blank">Josh Hamilton</a></strong> agreeing to a 5 year, $125 million contract with the AL West rival Angels. This is bad news for not only the Hamilton-or-busters, but really for every Mariner fan. Even if you did not find Hamilton enticing, you cannot like seeing him sign with a rival, especially one who was already a very good team.</p>
<p>I, personally, was somewhere in the middle. I was not all in on Josh as some were, but I did like him for the right price. I might have even given him the deal that LA did, but I have a feeling we would have had to beat that offer by quite a bit. Playing for an 89 win team with the likes of <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/p/pujolal01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-sodomojo.com" target="_blank">Albert Pujols</a></strong> and <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/troutmi01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-sodomojo.com" target="_blank">Mike Trout</a></strong> is a little more attractive than coming to a young team with a lot of question marks in a pitchers park.</p>
<p>Now many of you may be thinking the Ms absolutely need to sign <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/swishni01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-sodomojo.com" target="_blank">Nick Swisher</a></strong> or someone comparable so we can try to match what the Angels did, and I understand where you are coming from. But I strongly disagree.</p>
<p>In my opinion, the Mariners have two options at this point.</p>
<ul>
<li>They can either sit tight and maybe make a few smaller additions such as <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/k/kubelja01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-sodomojo.com" target="_blank">Jason Kubel</a></strong> or <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/morsemi01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-sodomojo.com" target="_blank">Mike Morse</a></strong> to at least stay relevant, but not go after a big time free agent, or</li>
<li>They can go all out and bring in 3-4 big time players like Swisher, <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/u/uptonju01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-sodomojo.com" target="_blank">Justin Upton</a></strong>, <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/bournmi01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-sodomojo.com" target="_blank">Michael Bourn</a></strong> and a pitcher.</li>
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<p>Let me explain what some people may think of as crazy.</p>
<p>Option one makes sense because they aren&#8217;t going to compete in this division, even if they bring in one big name bat like many hoped for. 3.5 &#8211; 4 WAR Nick Swisher does not get us anywhere but 3rd place at best. He probably never would have instantly brought the Ms to contention, but now there is almost no chance. No one or two players are going to be able to catch the Angels, at least for the next few years.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why it makes sense to stay put for now, and reassess next year or the year after. Then we can bring in a bat that will still be around when the Angels are old and the Ms have a chance to win. Bringing in Swisher on a 4-5 year deal when they won&#8217;t compete until the last two years of the deal, when Swisher is most likely no more than an average player, does not help.</p>
<p>Wait it out, then make your big splash in 2014 or 2015.</p>
<p>As for option two, it is the only chance the Ms have at competing in the next year or two. They are way behind the Angels now, and it would take multiple top players to stay with them. I&#8217;m talking signing Swisher, Bourn and <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/j/jacksed01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-sodomojo.com" target="_blank">Edwin Jackson</a></strong>, no matter what it takes. Trading for Upton no matter what it takes. Doing whatever is needed to get the players that will keep you in the hunt.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I think option one is much more likely for this team. Ownership has not shown a huge desire to win, and I don&#8217;t expect that to change. I see Jack trading for a 2nd or 3rd tier guy like Mike Morse or Jason Kubel, and waiting the rest out. As hard as it is to admit, that may be the best option for this current Mariner team.</p>
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<p>The more I look into the data, the more proof I get that players just don&#8217;t do all that well into their 30&#8242;s. Sure you have guys like Barry Bonds that had really, really productive seasons on the south side of 30. But for every one of them, there seems to be 10 more that flamed out.</p>
<p>The Mariners are somewhat likely to land Josh Hamilton or Nick Swisher in the next few weeks. There is little doubt that either player will improve the Mariners’ offense this year, the next year, and probably even the year after that. However, neither player is likely to sign for only three years, so let’s take a look at a longer-term projection.</p>
<p>Using Baseball-Reference’s similarity scores, I gathered both Hamilton and Swisher’s top 10 comparable players (up to and through the age-31 season). I then analyzed the average performance of those ten players in each subsequent season on the downhill side of 31. I looked at the effects of age on these types of players in terms of plate appearances, BABIP, OBP, ISO, Bill James’ Power-Speed statistic, and WAR.</p>
<p>I analyzed <a href="http://sodomojo.com/2012/12/10/9958/">Hamilton</a> on Monday, so here we go with Nick Swisher.</p>
<p>The first thing I noticed about <a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/friv/scomp_bat.cgi?I=swishni01:Nick%20Swisher&amp;st=int&amp;compage=31&amp;age=31" target="_blank">Swisher’s comps</a> was that they played fewer seasons after reaching age 31 than did Hamilton’s comps. The median for Hamilton’s comps was 6 years, while Swisher’s best friends only made it 4 years past the age-31 season. In other words, if Swisher is as much like his most-similar players as Hamilton is, then we should expect him to flame out sooner into his 30&#8242;s than Hamilton.</p>
<p>As we expected based on the information above, Swisher’s comps saw their stats decline over the years. The chart below summarizes the average decline each year.</p>
<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">Stat</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">Yearly Change</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">PA</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">-54 PA</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">Babip</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">-8 points</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">OBP</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">-7 points</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">ISO</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">-17 points</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">PwrSpd</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">-1.29 units</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">WAR</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">-0.50 wins</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>While Hamilton’s cronies declined just 0.36 WAR on average, Swisher’s declined by half of a win! Logically, this may have something to do with the fact that Swisher has put more wear and tear on his body. Swisher was called up during his age-23 season for the Oakland Athletics, while Hamilton was prohibited from playing in the majors until his age-26 season. It could be that Hamilton’s injury issues more than make up for his decreased service time, but I don’t have any hard evidence for that. What I do know is that Swisher’s best comps did not last long, and they retired or declined quickly after their age-35 seasons.</p>
<p>Let’s take a look at a 6-year projection for Swisher, with a starting value of $5M per WAR, a 7.5% inflation rate, and the assumption that he plays in 2013 how he played between 2010 and 2012.</p>
<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Year</span></strong></td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">PA</span></strong></td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">WAR</span></strong></td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Value ($)</span></strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">2013</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">631</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">2.8</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">$14.0</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">2014</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">577</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">2.3</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">$12.4</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">2015</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">523</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">1.8</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">$10.4</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">2016</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">469</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">1.3</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">$8.1</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">2017</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">415</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">0.8</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">$5.3</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">2018</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">361</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">0.3</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">$2.2</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Total</span></strong></td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">2976</span></strong></p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">9.3</span></strong></p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">$52.3</span></strong></p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That looks pretty ugly unless Swisher is willing to go 4 years for $40M. But obviously that’s not going to happen. However, one thing about Swisher’s comps as alluded to above, is that the real drop off came after four years. In other words, the aging process wasn’t linear at all. In fact, on average his comps actually maintained value for their age-32 through age-35 seasons. This probably has a lot to do with plate discipline and patience. Swisher and his comps derive a lot of value from plate discipline, summarized nicely by Swisher&#8217;s career 13.2% walk rate and .361 OBP. Those skills hold on a little longer, so maybe the following projection is fairer.</p>
<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Year</span></strong></td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">PA</span></strong></td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">WAR</span></strong></td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Value ($)</span></strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">2013</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">631</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">2.8</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">$14.0</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">2014</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">577</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">2.7</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">$14.5</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">2015</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">523</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">2.6</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">$15.0</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">2016</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">469</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">2.5</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">$15.5</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">2017</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">415</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">1.5</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">$10.0</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">2018</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">361</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">0.5</p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right">$3.6</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Total</span></strong></td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">2976</span></strong></p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">12.6</span></strong></p>
</td>
<td valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap">
<p align="right"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">$72.7</span></strong></p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>With pretty constant value for four years, and then sudden drops, this version of Swisher looks like a candidate for no more than 4 years at $60M. In fact, Fangraphs <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/contract-crowdsourcing-2012-13-results/" target="_blank">crowdsourcing</a> projected a 4-year contract at $56M.</p>
<p>What these two quick studies on Hamilton’s and Swisher’s comparable players have shown me is that the aging process is very real and very harsh after a player’s age-31 season. Even a good player. I know it’s important to get a bat, and overspending a little would be worth it to get a few more wins around here. But if the M’s absolutely have to go five years to get Swisher, I hope it’s for no more than $65M. I would prefer 4 years at $55M!</p>
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