Quick Acquisition Poll

The following two players are both left handed hitting outfielders. Disregarding their defense, as both are about average, who would you rather see the Mariners acquire? One of the following is a guy stuck in the minor leagues behind some decent outfielder depth. The other is a major leaguer who the Mariners have been semi-connected to over the off-season and in the general past and is still rather young himself.

I’m not sure what the cost compairsons would be as both would be acquired via a trade. Who would you rather in this scenerio?

Player A

Age Lev PA R H 2B 3B HR SB BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS
21 A- 321 42 98 21 5 2 13 16 37 .338 .390 .466 .855
22 A+ 616 87 169 34 7 7 30 39 83 .307 .370 .433 .803
23 AA 381 53 100 22 4 11 19 32 43 .297 .360 .484 .843
24 AAA 272 49 82 19 4 10 12 19 34 .337 .393 .572 .965
4 Seasons   1590 231 449 96 20 30 74 106 197 .316 .376 .475 .851

Player B

 

Age Lev PA R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS
21 Rk-A- 289 52 93 22 4 11 66 9 26 50 .358 .412 .600 1.012
21 Rk 260 46 86 21 3 9 61 9 25 47 .369 .427 .601 1.028
21 A- 29 6 7 1 1 2 5 0 1 3 .259 .276 .593 .868
22 A+ 585 87 160 45 6 9 72 5 44 115 .300 .353 .458 .811
23 AA 582 79 154 46 4 15 71 4 51 74 .294 .361 .483 .844
24 AAA 505 68 143 32 6 17 82 7 39 73 .317 .381 .528 .909
25 AAA 303 55 80 16 2 10 53 11 46 46 .323 .426 .524 .950
5 Seasons   2264 341 630 161 22 62 344 36 206 358 .313 .379 .506 .885
AAA (2 seasons) AAA 808 123 223 48 8 27 135 18 85 119 .319 .398 .526 .924
AA (1 season) AA 582 79 154 46 4 15 71 4 51 74 .294 .361 .483 .844
Rk (1 season) Rk 260 46 86 21 3 9 61 9 25 47 .369 .427 .601 1.028
A- (1 season) A- 29 6 7 1 1 2 5 0 1 3 .259 .276 .593 .868
A+ (1 season) A+ 585 87 160 45 6 9 72 5 44 115 .300 .353 .458 .811
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com

 

Who would you rather?

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  • maqman

    So, who are we talking about? It’s like a blind date, if they don’t show up you don’t if you saved some time and money or really missed out big time. The Commish will not okay a contract made out to Player A or B.

  • maqman

    So, who are we talking about? It’s like a blind date, if they don’t show up you don’t know if you saved some time and money or really missed out big time. The Commish will not okay a contract made out to Player A or B, at least not without a substantial bribe.

  • maqman

    So, who are we talking about? It’s like a blind date, if they don’t show up you don’t if you saved some time and money or really missed out big time. The Commish will not okay a contract made out to Player A or B.

  • maqman

    So, who are we talking about? It’s like a blind date, if they don’t show up you don’t know if you saved some time and money or really missed out big time. The Commish will not okay a contract made out to Player A or B, at least not without a substantial bribe.

  • Keith_12thMR

    From what you’re saying here, it seems like like a bogus question to start with. You’re comparing a solid major leaguer to a prospect but comparing their minor league numbers, yet not giving up the minor league numbers that actually might dictate success at the majors.

    There have been plenty of guys who’ve put up good OPS numbers in AAA only to implode against major league pitching. Balentine, Clement, Saunders…So, if this is all the info you’re given then take the guy who’s already proven to be able to hit major league hitting every time.

  • Keith_12thMR

    From what you’re saying here, it seems like like a bogus question to start with. You’re comparing a solid major leaguer to a prospect but comparing their minor league numbers, yet not giving up the minor league numbers that actually might dictate success at the majors.

    There have been plenty of guys who’ve put up good OPS numbers in AAA only to implode against major league pitching. Balentine, Clement, Saunders…So, if this is all the info you’re given then take the guy who’s already proven to be able to hit major league hitting every time.

  • Harrison_Crow

    I disagree with that theory. Primarily because you are assuming things about the quality of the major league player that haven’t been provided and you are assuming as well as making compairsons of former minor leaguers of our organization that had holes in their game.

    Baletine and Saunders had huge holes in their game. We knew this and still proceeded with our affection. If they ever patched that hole they would become a VERY strong player.

    Clement had serious knee problems, that sapped him of his power and has eroded his overall ability at the plate. While his health was a concern it was hardly thought to affect him so greatly. He’s a unique case.

    Neither players, whose stat lines were given, have a significant hole in their game. Yet, neither are precieved all-stars or above average players.

  • Keith_12thMR

    @Harrison_Crow I wasn’t trying to assume anything. That was the point. The major leaguer has made the jump from AAA to MLB, the minor leaguer hasn’t. No matter how good the minor leaguer’s numbers, that transition should never be taken for granted.

    Like I said, If they appear to be roughly the same player, take the player for which you know what you’re get, over the player for which the best info you have is a projection.

  • Harrison_Crow

    I disagree with that theory. Primarily because you are assuming things about the quality of the major league player that haven’t been provided and you are assuming as well as making compairsons of former minor leaguers of our organization that had holes in their game.

    Baletine and Saunders had huge holes in their game. We knew this and still proceeded with our affection. If they ever patched that hole they would become a VERY strong player.

    Clement had serious knee problems, that sapped him of his power and has eroded his overall ability at the plate. While his health was a concern it was hardly thought to affect him so greatly. He’s a unique case.

    Neither players, whose stat lines were given, have a significant hole in their game. Yet, neither are precieved all-stars or above average players.

  • Harrison_Crow

    There are more assumptions. There is inherent risk in every acqusition. How do you know that the individual comes over from his previous organization and produces the same as before. You don’t, you hope he does, but there is no way of knowing.

    That wasn’t the question either. The question wasn’t would you take a major leaguer over a minor leaguer? That’s an easy enough question for the most part so long as it’s in a vaccum.

    I admit that the intent of what I want I was trying to establish was that Blackmon was a suitable replacement target for Smith, with both having very similar statlines through similar years. But mainly because neither had outstanding problems in the minor leagues.

  • Keith_12thMR

    @Harrison_Crow I wasn’t trying to assume anything. That was the point. The major leaguer has made the jump from AAA to MLB, the minor leaguer hasn’t. No matter how good the minor leaguer’s numbers, that transition should never be taken for granted.

    Like I said, If they appear to be roughly the same player, take the player for which you know what you’re get, over the player for which the best info you have is a projection.

  • Harrison_Crow

    There are more assumptions. There is inherent risk in every acqusition. How do you know that the individual comes over from his previous organization and produces the same as before. You don’t, you hope he does, but there is no way of knowing.

    That wasn’t the question either. The question wasn’t would you take a major leaguer over a minor leaguer? That’s an easy enough question for the most part so long as it’s in a vaccum.

    I admit that the intent of what I want I was trying to establish was that Blackmon was a suitable replacement target for Smith, with both having very similar statlines through similar years. But mainly because neither had outstanding problems in the minor leagues.

  • maqman

    @Harrison_Crow Blackmon? Smith? The relevance escapes me.

  • maqman

    @Harrison_Crow Blackmon? Smith? The relevance escapes me.

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