Enough With Blasting Ownership


I’m guessing you’ve all heard or said one of, or multiple, the following statements at some point:

  • “Our owner has never seen the team play!”
  • “Howard and Chuck don’t care about winning!”
  • “They just want to turn a profit!”
  • “I love bologna sandwiches!”

Well, I’m here to tell you that only the fourth item on the list should still be in your vernacular moving forward.

I’ve been thinking about this subject much more as I’ve followed the movements of the club closer in recent years. And as Jason Churchill tweeted last night, the team handed out a lot of cash last night to newly signed players. More than some would have expected. Maybe even more than some feel was deserved.

This isn’t going to be a huge post citing tons of examples, but rather an opportunity to ask you to exercise your minds a bit.

Think about last night. Do a google search on international free agent signing bonuses. Consider where the Mariners payroll ranks with other clubs that are trying to compete.

We’re extremely fortunate to have an ownership group that will spend money. Do they spend as much as we’d like? No, but this isn’t New York or Chicago or Los Angeles. Have they always had people in place to assign the budget given that we felt were capable of building a winner? No, but bookending Bill Bavasi are two GMs who have a good feel for compiling talent.

Yes, they hired Bavasi. But it’s not like they gave him some change in the couch to work with.

So, the next time you get all angry: Stop. This ownership group does want to win and they’ve got us on a much better track now to get there.

  • MarinerMyers

    One thing that seems to get lost in all the ownership hate: There has never been, at any time, one penny that has ever been dispersed to the ownership group from the Mariners. Every year, all profits are re0invested into the team, whether that be for more youth players, to increase payroll, or to pay down some of the team’s stadium debt (the team did put up some funds for Safeco, even if we taxpayers paid for most of it.) The ownership group isn’t simply trying to line their own pockets. That is a myth.

    While there are things to be critical of with our ownership group, that isn’t one of them.

  • Keith_12thMR

    One thing that seems to get lost in all the ownership hate: There has never been, at any time, one penny that has ever been dispersed to the ownership group from the Mariners. Every year, all profits are re0invested into the team, whether that be for more youth players, to increase payroll, or to pay down some of the team’s stadium debt (the team did put up some funds for Safeco, even if we taxpayers paid for most of it.) The ownership group isn’t simply trying to line their own pockets. That is a myth.

    While there are things to be critical of with our ownership group, that isn’t one of them.

  • alex.carson

    I was going to bring that up, but didn’t want to get too specific. The information is widely available for people if they want to see how “greedy” M’s ownership is. We just have to stop being reactionary fans, IMO.

    They told us that for years, and when the leaked docs came out last year, it showed that they weren’t lying. They really do reinvest and have even taken a loss one year.

  • alex.carson

    I was going to bring that up, but didn’t want to get too specific. The information is widely available for people if they want to see how “greedy” M’s ownership is. We just have to stop being reactionary fans, IMO.

    They told us that for years, and when the leaked docs came out last year, it showed that they weren’t lying. They really do reinvest and have even taken a loss one year.

  • Harrison_Crow

    I really like this post Alex. I agree that the ownership and even Chuck/Howard don’t get the credit they deserve. Everyone likes Jack Zduriencik and what he’s done so far but whenever they bring up what the GM has done they immediately talk about the payroll “handcuffing”.

    You don’t have to love everything they do and I still hold them accountable for the 90s and lack of a world series visit but you have to give credit where credit is due and they have restocked this front office with some key talent.

  • Harrison_Crow

    I really like this post Alex. I agree that the ownership and even Chuck/Howard don’t get the credit they deserve. Everyone likes Jack Zduriencik and what he’s done so far but whenever they bring up what the GM has done they immediately talk about the payroll “handcuffing”.

    You don’t have to love everything they do and I still hold them accountable for the 90s and lack of a world series visit but you have to give credit where credit is due and they have restocked this front office with some key talent.

  • maqman

    Can’t argue with the post or any of the comments. The M’s are in better hands than most teams.

  • maqman

    Can’t argue with the post or any of the comments. The M’s are in better hands than most teams.

  • JG

    I am liking what Jack Z brings. He knows how to scout and evaluate talent. I agree with most of your points but ownership still is a question. They let Bill Bavasi spend and obtain players to ‘go for it’. It is too bad they couldn’t recognize Bavasi was actually a complete moron (well, 98% moron). He set the Mariners back in a big way.

    We now are looking to be improving and might contend for the AL West next year. If we obtain a bat (maybe 2) then we might have a chance. Yes, ownership has dropped some cash lately but do we have enough smarts in the front office? This front office let Bavasi ruin this franchise; will they recognize a good thing in Jack Z and keep him? Let him spend a bit more? I still wonder about ownership and Lincoln.

  • JG

    I am liking what Jack Z brings. He knows how to scout and evaluate talent. I agree with most of your points but ownership still is a question. They let Bill Bavasi spend and obtain players to ‘go for it’. It is too bad they couldn’t recognize Bavasi was actually a complete moron (well, 98% moron). He set the Mariners back in a big way.

    We now are looking to be improving and might contend for the AL West next year. If we obtain a bat (maybe 2) then we might have a chance. Yes, ownership has dropped some cash lately but do we have enough smarts in the front office? This front office let Bavasi ruin this franchise; will they recognize a good thing in Jack Z and keep him? Let him spend a bit more? I still wonder about ownership and Lincoln.